Sunday, September 12, 2010

The cold water in the face moment

I saw this article link on TPM.
I've been around the intertubes a bit, long enough to know that they are some mighty strange folks out there and they do like to tell one, their theories. Heh Heh.
But you learn that there's crazy and then there's batshit crazy to be handled with fireplace tongs. There are people one characterises in one's mind as "worth listening to to get a different point of view because they are basically rational i.e. Christopher Hitchens on a good day.
Then there a whole slew of honkers and screechers one doesn't bother with i.e. Beck, Palin etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
I had always put Dinesh D'Souza in the first category due to he could make sentences and had some watery thin gruel in there which you could not laugh at too much.
One has to work at being even-handed I find.
But, off the twig he goes!! with a bullshit analysis of Obama that is all about  anti-colonialism or some such bollocks.
The money quotes for me are :
I know a great deal about anticolonialism, because I am a native of Mumbai, India. I am part of the first Indian generation to be born after my country's independence from the British
and
Colonialism today is a dead issue. No one cares about it except the man in the White House
and
Rejecting the socialist formula, Obama has shown no intention to nationalize the investment banks or the health sector. Rather, he seeks to decolonize these institutions, and this means bringing them under the government's leash
which follows somewhat uneasily from DD's earlier statement
The second is that Obama is a socialist--not an out-and-out Marxist, but something of a European-style socialist
this is in an article which stresses the AFRICANESS of Obama and the KENYANESS of him
 I mean, Fuck me days! Do these people have no shame? No sense that eventually they will have to justify a sentence or pronouncement in some way?
 And he's got a book about this coming out soon. Is there room in the Conservative library alongside Treason, Liberal Fascism and The Overton Window?

20 comments:

Unknown said...

Match crazy with crazy. Tell the dood that Mumbai is a client state of China, always has been, the British were just keeping it warm for the Chinese.

Jennifer said...

I mean, Fuck me days! Do these people have no shame? No sense that eventually they will have to justify a sentence or pronouncement in some way?

No, no they don't... because they never really have to. Their audience only cares about justifying their own beliefs, fears, etc.

Unknown said...

Cue confirmation bias, a flavour for every saviour.

Hamish Mack said...

Yeah, it's just that if you say that Obama is obsessed by the anti-colonialism thing you should, really, have a more compelling argument for it than, his father wrote a paper about it, in 1965.
Even us microbiologists with our Alice-in-Wonderland view of science will not base stuff on how a different bacteria acted 45 years ago. We might say that this is how the other bug acted then and so the study organism's current behaviour(with a "u" actually WP) is consistent or not consistent with that last action. We would not try to make the current actions fit the former actions by saying "Lookz theys the samezzz, OMG!!" But we don't get on the teevee, I guess that is the crux of the matter.
Incidentally: What is the line on a graph which approaches another line infinitely closely but never actually touches it? I was trying to find out to describe D'Souza and teh crazee. As in a past tense.

Unknown said...

Asymtote.
The credibility of the media is long past, indeed it was always perhaps an asymptotic (merc tm) line anyway.

Everything is advertorial, always was. Funny thing is that now that advertising is dead (merc tm), we really now have something to worry about, ref Social Marketing (govt.tm).

loids, crim names.

Hamish Mack said...

Thanks for asymptote Merc. Wikipedia was of no help to me, oddly

Unknown said...

Hehe I goog seekedified...graph lines that never meet. But, in my defense I used to put them lines in me drawings fairly often so knew of them.

crakina, really really choice kina.

mikey said...

They created this monster. One over the top statement follows the previous, and each must be more outrageous, more satisfying to the gaping maw of hate they are trying to feed. It's ultimately hopeless - at some point there will be nowhere left to go but to call for his head. He's a muslim from a liberation christian church. He's a Nazi, a socialist, a marxist. He's the antichrist. He hates america, loves sharia law and for some reason like terrorists to blow up stuff in the country he lives in.

Mere hitler, stalin and bin laden comparisons already fall short of the panting, sweating fevered madness. They need him to be more evil, more bent on their subjugation and ultimate elimination, more committed to not just the destruction of America, but of christianity, perhaps the entire planet.

Once they get to calling him an enemy alien, the kind from another planet, they will have exhausted their options, and at that point we will begin to see the explicit calls for violent revolution.

There's no stopping this runaway train...

Unknown said...

Hell hath no fury like a man afraid of losing his mortgage.

pulpo, yeah it is.

Substance McGravitas said...

He's a muslim from a liberation christian church. He's a Nazi, a socialist, a marxist. He's the antichrist. He hates america, loves sharia law and for some reason like terrorists to blow up stuff in the country he lives in.

Also he's really really smart, and really really stupid. He's a one-man Illuminati.

ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© said...

Incoherent bigotry is the new black for today's conservative.

Dinesh D'Souza has to get with the program if he wants to keep being paid.

It's hard out there for a pimp...
~

J— said...

Obama seeks to impose Ujamaa on the USA!

Rather, he seeks to decolonize these institutions, and this means bringing them under the government's leash

This is true. The same thing happened in Mumbai. When it was under the Portuguese, colonial institutions were without government. When it was under the British, colonial institutions were still without government. But then when India became independent, these institutions were no longer colonial but all of a sudden they were leashed to something new and strange called government.

Smut Clyde said...

This seems to be a form of the Chewbacca defense.

Mr D'Souza, you are using words like 'decolonising' that do not translate into any practical course of action; the motives you are trying to impute to Obama make no sense.

That is EXACTLY MY POINT!!!
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Though give D'Souza points for calling Obama's father a "Kenyan tribesman", which sounds more barbaric than simply "Kenyan', with connotations of mud huts and bones through the nose.

I see from Alicublog that Newt Gingham has stolen D'Souza's psychological insights (inserting the name of Alinsky boo hiss as his own personal contribution) -- ha ha OUT-SOURCING. There is the potential drawback for Newt that he doesn't have D'Souza's get-out-of-racism-accusations-free card, in case some media pundit points out that this "Kenyan tribesman" line of rhetoric is in fact racist...

Hey, it might happen...

M. Bouffant said...

Even once one of them breaks down & starts screaming THE WORD! it will be forgiven by the media, "as he (or she) was under constant pressure from liberal media asking just how racist he/she was."

Substance McGravitas said...

Related.

Hamish Mack said...

The Kenyan World View was undone when cheap salted pineapples flooded the market. Curse those Seychellians and their anti-competitive world view

fish said...

The anticolonialist believes that since the rich have prospered at the expense of others, their wealth doesn't really belong to them; therefore whatever can be extracted from them is automatically just.

He says this like it is a bad thing.

Big Bad Bald Bastard said...

Mr D'Souza, you are using words like 'decolonising' that do not translate into any practical course of action; the motives you are trying to impute to Obama make no sense.

He gives Humpty Dumpty a run for the money.

I just used my post on this subject to make an execrable pun.

Smut Clyde said...

I had always put Dinesh D'Souza in the [worth-listening-to] category due to he could make sentences and had some watery thin gruel in there which you could not laugh at too much.

On the other hand, people in this thread document D'Souza's history of defending slavery (“The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well”) and segregation (“...intended to assure that blacks, like the handicapped, would be insulated from the radical racists and – in the paternalist view – permitted to perform to the capacity of their arrested development”).

Some go as far as to say that D'Souza's motives only make sense in the light of his family's loss of status when his birth-city of Goa was decolonised in 1961 (the Catholic colonial elite has been fighting to preserve its privileges ever since). Fortunately, here at Riddled we are above such tactics.

Hamish Mack said...

Well, yeah it was a relative thing.I hadn't read the defense of slavery equating the quality of life of, say, a wardrobe, with a person. What a gem.